Saturday, June 25, 2011

When RBI smuggled out the gold


This is the 20th anniversary of that week when the central bank had to sneak out 47 tonnes of gold to England
Elections for the tenth Lok Sabha were to be held beginning May 20, 1991. But after the first phase was over, the very next day, on the campaign trail in Sriperembudur, former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated. Hence elections had to be rescheduled and completed by June 15. Gandhi had been PM for five years from 1984 to 1989, but his government could not get re-elected. The next Lok Sabha unfortunately lasted only for 16 months, instead of full five years, and was marked by instability, and worsening economic situation. Inflation was running at above 15 per cent, industrial growth was negative, and foreign exchange reserves had fallen below one billion dollars, barely enough to pay for three week’s worth of imports. The situation was so bad that even Indian Oil Corporation was unable to import crude oil, since no foreign supplier could trust its creditworthiness. They all wanted a bank guarantee from IOC. But the total stock of dollars in the country was near zero, so it wasn’t easy for IOC to show those requisite dollars. Dollars continued to decline since even the non-resident desis (the NRI’s) pulled out more than 1 billion dollars in a few months. Meanwhile, crude oil prices were rising, because Iraq was about to invade Kuwait, and Americans would surely retaliate. In this precarious situation, there was no choice for India but to sell some gold. The government initially decided to sell 20 tonnes. This was done somewhat surreptitiously using State Bank of India as an intermediary (i.e. gold was first transferred to SBI from RBI and then sold). But that wasn’t enough. We needed an emergency loan. Who’s the money-lender to distressed economies? That “money lender” was the International Monetary Fund. But IMF loan came with lots of strings and conditions. It wanted the fiscal deficit reduced. (Greece today is in similar distress, but IMF cannot act tough with Greece, and hence cannot impose any conditions. Greek default will hurt Europe much more than itself. In case of India in 1991, IMF had the stronger hand.) It also wanted the rupee to be drastically devalued. But this too had to be done without any advance warning to the markets, else there would be all round panic and huge political backlash. The newly elected minority government of Narasimha Rao was really in a fix. They decided that there was no choice but to pledge additional gold from their lockers. But foreign lenders were so skeptical, that they would not lend to India without physical possession of the gold. Which meant that the 47 tonnes of gold had to be airlifted from Mumbai to be stored in the vaults of Bank of London. Hence on the evening of July 3, 1991 the first consignment was loaded on to a truck by the Reserve Bank of India to be taken to the airport. Unfortunately the truck had a flat tyre. It was as if the gold didn’t want to go out of India. The RBI must have really sweated its maiden attempt at gold “smuggling” (for all this was done very quietly)! The next day the RBI also announced its second installment of a massive devaluation. In three weeks, on July 24, the finance minister presented his first budget in the evening at 5 pm. The devaluation, the emergency gold loan and the landmark budget speech which dismantled the Licence Raj and brought eventual glory to India. That same FM, could proudly announce to Parliament in November that year, that all the loan against gold was repaid, and even the earlier gold sold was repurchased! Twenty years later India has become a net lender to IMF, and also recently injected 7 billion dollars into IMF by buying their gold!
Mumbai Mirror

Get reforms back on track – Rajiv Kumar

Instead of relying on monetary policy to beat back inflation, the government should push long-pending reforms to ease supply constraints, such as allowing FDI in multi-brand retail and paving the way for GST.
The recent 25 basis point hike in interest rates by the RBI, about which there was a sense of inevitability, has further strengthened the perception that India is faced with some difficult macroeconomic options in the coming months. Inflation does not seem to be headed downward, despite the RBI having raised interest rates 10 times by 275 basis points during the last one year.  In May 2011, the WPI, which the RBI apparently continues to use as the basis for its policy decisions, stood at 9.1 per cent year-on-year (all figures on inflation refer to the year-on-year) which was higher than the 8.6 per cent in April 2011. Core inflation (minus food and fuel) was also higher in May, having risen to 8.6 per cent, as compared with 8 per cent in the previous month. Global oil prices are still not showing any significant downward trend and global commodity prices, including food prices, also remain firm and volatile. Domestically, signs of any relief from a strong supply-side response are also not yet visible. The news on the monsoon front is not too good, with the Meteorological Department revising its monsoon forecast downwards. Capacity expansion has nearly stalled, with growth in gross fixed capital formation (investments) having declined from 17.4 per cent in the first quarter of 2010-11 to a mere 0.4 per cent in the fourth quarter of 2010-11.  Resources locked up in stalled projects are currently three times the level in 2007-08. Thus, it does seem that the RBI, committed to bringing down the inflation to within its comfort zone of between 5-6 per cent, and egged on this direction by the Prime Minister's Economic Advisory Committee, will continue raising rates for the next few months.  This could well imply further reduction in growth forecasts which are now already firmly below the 8 per cent level. Is it not time therefore to lower expectations and focus more on the reforms that are required to put growth back on the 9-10 per cent trajectory that seemed to be well within our grasp not so long ago? The purists will argue that with growth still above 7 per cent, this is the time to redress macroeconomic imbalances and not be distracted by short-term weakening of the growth momentum. There is, of course, merit in this argument. But the catch is in the recipe to be used for restoring the macro-balance. If we continue to rely almost exclusively on monetary policy for achieving this balance, I am afraid we are destined to not only fail in our objective but also end up causing serious damage to medium-term growth prospects and inflict considerable pain on the people.  Over-reliance on monetary policy would imply pushing up rates to squeeze out inflationary expectations even if it implies a major slowdown in GDP growth, as was experienced in the latter half of the nineties.  Given the higher aspiration levels now, this could generate serious social stress and further vitiate the political atmosphere. This is not the advisable way forward. Instead, the government will hopefully find the will and the political acumen to push forward with the reform agenda that will remove some of the supply-side constraints and improve the investment climate. There are several steps that the government could take that do not require any legislative action. These include the finalisation of the manufacturing policy; announcing a policy on FDI in multi-brand retail; the delisting of perishables from the APMC Act; permitting the actual dismantling of the administered oil price mechanism; and bringing down fertiliser subsidies. These measures should be announced as soon as possible as any further delay could make these decisions hostage to the next round of elections — polls in UP are less than 10 months away.  The news that the Ministry of Fertilisers is opposed to the recommendations of the Saumitra Choudhary committee on hiking urea prices does not augur well and, if true, the Ministry should be directed to let the greater national welfare prevail over sectoral considerations. A serious effort is, however, required to ensure that even the major reforms currently stalled due to lack of sufficient political support are pushed forward. These include the GST, which has the potential to raise growth rates by a couple of percentage points on its own; and the financial sector and education sector reforms, for which Bills are now pending in Parliament. These reforms are critical for achieving the adequate supply-side response.  Education sector reforms are specially critical as these are key to accelerating skill formation and expanding training and education capacities in the economy. Without such capacity expansion and improvement in the regulatory framework in the education sector, the demographic advantage that the country possesses will be lost.  The implementation of these reforms, however, requires broader political consensus that can only happen if political parties set aside opportunistic considerations in deference to national welfare.  I am not sure if the gravity of the economic situation and the need to push forward the reform agenda is still sufficiently clear to our leaders across the political spectrum. I hope it is. I am afraid, India's economic story may not be able to bear the cost of another wasted Parliamentary session and the paralysis in governance.
(The author is Secretary-General, FICCI)  

Banks must make business correspondent model more viable: RBI

Chennai : Banks have to innovate their organisational structures and support systems to increase the viability and the sustainability of the business correspondent model, said Dr Subir Gokarn, Deputy Governor, Reserve Bank of India. He was addressing the175th annual general meeting of the Madras Chamber of Commerce here on Thursday. “It is reasonably clear that the business correspondent model is not infinitely scalable,” he said. However, even with all these concerns, it is a good beginning and a generic model. With appropriate adaptations to local conditions it is the most likely way to achieve at least minimal access to the financial system through a basic or no-frills bank account.  Dr Gokarn said this while speaking on financial inclusion, and to what extent the banking correspondent model could help. He noted that the fundamental problem in financial inclusion is the challenge of managing costs of a large number of small-ticket transactions in far-flung areas. What is needed here, said Mr Gokarn, is to develop last-mile delivery mechanisms that can take these products from the large providers in the formal sector to this vast pool of new customers.  Quoting a study, Dr Gokarn said that social obligations, old-age security, children's education and providing for emergencies are the four biggest motivations for households to save.  Noting this, he said that there was a role for the insurance industry in this area. Insurance penetration in India is still very low — 10 per cent in the case of life insurance and 0.6 per cent in the case of non-life.
Business Line

Now, file tax returns from mobile phone

New Delhi Online income tax return filing company TaxSpanner today announced launch of mobile version of its solution that will enable users to file income tax returns from their handset. "After introducing the eFile by eMail option where customers need to just send us an email with a few details, e-filing of taxes through mobile is the next obvious step for the company," Ankur Sharma, CEO, TaxSpanner said in a statement. "Our new mobile site will make it easy for the taxpayer to file his ITR using the mobile phone," he added. This new solution from the company will offer taxpayers service to file income tax returns (ITR) through their mobile phones from the first week of July, 2011. TaxSpanner has developed eFile by mobile solution using open source technologies namely Linux, apache, postgres, python, django which it has used for the service from its website. To access the service, a mobile user will have to visit TaxSpanner site on his handset from the browser present on the device. After this he will be automatically directed to "eFile by eMail" application page of the TaxSpanner mobile site. The user is not required to be registered for this. Only he will need to fill up a form with some personal details and upload Form 16 on the same page. Thereafter, the ITR will be filled and generated automatically, the statement said.
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Will Subrata Roy’s friends shield him from RBI & Sebi?

In the coming weeks, we will know whether the political heft of Subrata Roy of the Sahara Group can save him from the combined might of two of India’s most powerful regulators – the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) and the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Sebi)......

Zzzzzz! With govt asleep, India’s growth story falters

Friday, June 24, 2011

'Financial inclusion is more than access to microfinance'



Usha Thorat, Director, Centre for Advanced Financial Research and Learning

Hyderabad : Access to microfinance by itself cannot be taken as financial inclusion, as the latter idea requires having an individual bank account which brings the account holder into the national payment system and insures her deposit, according to Usha Thorat, director, Centre for Advanced Financial Research and Learning. Addressing the valedictory of a three-day summit on microfinance here on Thursday, Thorat, who was a deputy governor of the Reserve Bank of India, said, “Financial inclusion has become a global buzz word, figuring on the agenda of G-20 meetings. We need to convince banks about the profitability of serving the poor.” Referring to a comment that the focus has been more on providing credit services rather than on savings, she said the original RBI rules required a six-month savings record by the groups before they could take loans under the SHG-bank linkage programme. She said her organisation would take up research on how to utilise the social capital built by SHGs for financial inclusion, called for more attention to the issue of urban poverty too. B Rajsekhar, CEO, Society for Elimination of Rural Poverty (SERP), said the notion that the SHG movement in the state was successful because of funds from the World Bank was incorrect. According to him, the World Bank assistance during 2000-2011 was Rs 2,200 crore, while the cumulative bank lending to SHGs was Rs 34,316 crore. The Centre’s contribution under the Swarna Jayanti Swarojgar Yojna was Rs 500 crore, the SHGs’ own corpus was Rs 5,070 crore, and the state government contributed Rs 1,099 crore as incentive for prompt repayment. On the suggestion that SHGs were evolving as a parallel structure to the Panchayat system, Rajsekhar said that with the participation of SHG women, the dysfunctional institution of Gram Sabha had actually been revitalised. Earlier, Sarpanches and ward members used to run the system on their own without any participation of Gram Sabhas in the decision making. At the end of the summit on Microfinance and Inclusive Development, the organisers issued a declaration with 12 points, including one calling for integration of microfinance interventions into sub-sectors like agriculture, dairy, fisheries, etc. Another said self-regulation of microfinance programmes would promote growth with equality. MP Vasimalai, president, International Network of Alternative Financial Institutions (Asia), said there were many different models of SHGs being followed in different areas, and these experiments leading to a diversity of models needs to be encouraged. According to him, microfinance is not an alternative to mainstream systems and it was too early to talk about the derivatives of microfinance such as micro-insurance.
BS

Return of the prodigal; Vijayan may be reinstated as CMD, LIC

Reportedly given clean chit by the CBI, the former chairman of Life Insurance Corporation of India, T S Vijayan may be reinstated to his original position, authoritative sources have said. Vijayan was demoted to the position of managing director in May this following a cash-for loans scam which engulfed the corporation's investment department in November last year. But now his name has been cleared by the investigating agencies. An indication that decks are being cleared for Vijayan to take over the reins as CMD looked clear after authorities decided to postpone the interview for the new CMD abruptly on Wednesday.  Those who were summoned for interview included D K Malhotra Acting CMD, Tomas Mathew MD, and also T T Mathew K Sahoo and K B Saha, all ED.  Since Vijayan has been given a clean chit, he may have to wait for the CVC clearance to get back in the grooves.  It may be mentioned that Vijayan demotion had come within weeks of the finance ministry setting up a committee led by former Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) Vepa Kamesam to probe the investments made by the LIC in the last three years... The LIC's investment corpus is worth 9 lakh crore. Also to be mentioned that Vijayan had earlier earned laurels for his innovative ideas and presently has two years of service before reaching the age of superannuation.

Make public RBI advisory note issued to ICICI

The Central Information Commission (CIC) has directed the Reserve Bank of India to disclose an advisory note it issued to ICICI Bank for alleged violation of any RBI guidelines or for contravention of the provisions of money laundering and foreign exchange acts. The case relates to an RTI application filed by SS Vohra, who had sought to know details of such advisory notes issued by the apex bank to Patna and Hong Kong branches of ICICI Bank.  ICICI Bank has objected the disclosure of the information citing three exemption clauses of the RTI Act section 8(1) (a), (d) and (e).  These section exempt disclosure of information which can -- prejudicially affect the sovereignty and integrity of India, the security, strategic, scientific or economic interests of the state, relation with foreign state or lead to incitement of an offence, is related to trade secrets and commercial confidence and is held in fiduciary capacity. During the hearing, Vohra said the Finance Minister had made a written statement in Parliament that Patna branch of ICICI Bank Limited had opened some fictitious accounts for alleged fraudsters for which an advisory note was issued to it in December 2007.  Chief Information Commissioner Satyananda Mishra said there was "no merit in the contention that the advisory note issued by the RBI to the Bank in the present case will, by any stretch of imagination, fall under exemption clauses" cited by the bank.
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RBI sees more Asia monetary tightening

CANBERRA: Monetary tightening is set to continue in emerging economies, with inflationary concerns becoming more important, RBI governor Duvvuri Subbarao said on Thursday, after giving a speech at an Australian university in Canberra.  "I would see continuing of monetary tightening across emerging economies," said Subbarao, when asked about monetary policy settings in Asia.  He noted that the International Monetary Fund has said growth in emerging economies was in line with earlier forecasts, but that inflationary concerns have become more important.  "We've (India) been experiencing inflationary pressures for the past two years," he said.  The Reserve Bank of India (BRI) last week lifted official interest rates for the 10th time in just over a year to help curb stubbornly high inflation as growth slows in Asia's third-largest economy.  The repo rate was raised by 25 basis points to 7.5 percent. Wholesale inflation in India stands at 9 percent, roughly double the central bank's comfort level.  Economists expect the RBI to lift rates by a further 50 basis points in 2011, with the tightening cycle seen to be nearing its peak.  Rising rates and slowing growth add to the headaches for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, whose embattled government is buffeted by criticism over inflation, a spate of corruption scandals and its inability to push through reforms.  India's annual economic growth in January-March slipped to a lower-than-expected 7.8 percent, the slowest pace in five quarters, as the rise in credit costs and inflation weighed on consumption and investment.
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Global Financial Crisis and India

Speaking on "India and the global financial crisis" in the 2011 K R Narayanan Oration, Dr Subbarao quoted K R Narayanan commenting that globalisation was not the end of history. He then pointed out that the latest Global Financial Crisis (GFC) was truly global. He humorously pointed out his term as Reserve Bank Governor started just before the GFC, so some blamed him for it. India had a well regulated financial sector but was still hit by the GFC.....................

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Pyramid schemes: Daylight robbery

Clearly, with no blanket ban or registration and regulatory supervision, pyramid companies can operate freely until they collapse. The police, in most states, especially Mumbai, initiate some desultory action only when investors throng to file complaints after the cheques stop coming in. Even the Reserve Bank of India (RBI), maintains a Sphinx-like silence (as in the case of Speak Asia) or, at best............

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Food inflation stays sticky, gives RBI much to chew on

The latest surge in food inflation numbers makes RBI’s recent claim on prices stand on its head. Headline inflation would be mostly driven by commodity prices in next few months and........


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Siddharth Sahakari Bank's licence cancelled

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has cancelled the licence of Pune-based Siddharth Sahakari Bank Ltd as it had ceased to be solvent and all efforts to revive it had failed. The apex bank had also requested the registrar of co-operative societies, Maharashtra to issue an order for winding up the bank and appoint a liquidator for the bank. In a statement issued on Thursday, the apex bank noted, "In view of the fact that Siddharth Sahakari Bank Ltd, Pune, Maharashtra had ceased to be solvent, all efforts to revive it in close consultation with the government of Maharashtra had failed and the depositors were being inconvenienced by continued uncertainty, the RBI delivered the order cancelling its licence to the bank before commencement of business on June 14, 2011."  On liquidation of the bank, every depositor would be entitled to a repayment of his/her deposits up to a monetary ceiling of Rs one lakh from the Deposit Insurance and Credit Guarantee Corporation (DICGC) under usual terms and conditions. A scrutiny conducted with reference to the bank’s financial position as on September 30, 2010 had revealed further deterioration in its financial parameters. The CRAR was negative (-)90.3 per cent, net worth was assessed at (-) Rs 1,463.41 lakh and net loss was assessed at Rs 1,723.70 lakh as on that date. Additionally, the bank had apprised that it was facing severe liquidity problems due to heavy withdrawals from deposit accounts during September 2010. The sponsorship of sub-membership of the bank to Pune Bankers’ Clearing House was withdrawn by Cosmos Co-operative Bank Ltd, Pune with effect from October 30, 2010 as the bank had failed to meet its clearing liability. "Serious deficiencies as mentioned above revealed that the affairs of the bank were being conducted in a manner detrimental to the interests of the depositors," the statement further noted. The bank was issued a show cause notice on April 06, 2011 as to why the licence granted to the bank on November 29, 1996 to conduct banking business should not be cancelled. The bank had submitted its reply but was not found satisfactory. The bank was also advised to explore the possibility of merger with a sound urban cooperative bank. But in absence of any concrete proposal for merger, the RBI took the extreme measure of cancelling licence of the bank in the interest of bank's depositors.With the cancellation of licence and commencement of liquidation proceedings, the process of paying the depositors of the Siddharth Sahakari Bank Ltd, Pune, Maharashtra will be set in motion subject to the terms and conditions of the Deposit Insurance Scheme, the apex bank said. Siddharth Sahakari Bank was granted a licence by RBI on November 29, 1996 to commence banking business.
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RBI Deputy Governor lists areas for reforms


Dr Subir Gokarn, Deputy Governor, RBI, speaking on ‘Economic Reforms for Sustainable Growth’ at the 175th AGM of the Madras Chamber of Commerce and Industry, in Chennai on Thursday

“Policies and strategies for sustainable growth have to be welfare-oriented”
Reserve Bank of India, Deputy Governor, Subir Gokarn, on Thursday outlined food, human capital, infrastructure and financial sector development as critical area for reforms to achieve sustainable growth. Addressing the 175th Annual General Meeting of the Madras Chamber of Commerce and Industry (MCCI), he said: “This is not intended to be an exhaustive list…I have chosen my list based on my understanding and knowledge of them and not because I believe they are decisively more important than others that have been excluded. Nor am I claiming to offer panacea by way of reform ideas.” Dr. Gokarn said that the policies and strategies for sustainable growth have to be welfare-oriented; they must give due consideration to risks and have pragmatic “whatever works” approach.  On food inflation, he said: “The enduring solution to the persistent demand-supply imbalances in food is to increase supply rapidly. Production of relevant items has to be increased, mostly by increasing productivity. Cultivation risk has to be mitigated for farmers to find these products more attractive. Transportation, storage and distribution efficiency has to be increased to keep losses and distribution margins down.” Noting that the Centre had taken the first step by setting up the National Mission on Protein Supplements, he said that the need of the hour was to come out quickly with a concrete action plan.  According to him, infrastructure problem has two dimensions – sectoral and geographic. Significant progress had been made in the areas of sectoral imbalances. Over a period of time, policy clarity has been achieved and appropriate regulatory structures have been or are being put into place, he said. Mentioning that between 2020 and 2030, India would takeover the mantle of ‘factory of world' from China, he said that basic concern was the quality of workforce and called for providing vocational and job-oriented training to equip workers to function effectively. About the financial sector, he said that penetration of insurance, pension and other long term savings instruments were extremely low as households kept the money at home or in bank accounts. Last-mile delivery mechanism had to be developed to take these products to a vast pool of new customers. Later talking to reporters, he said that the forecast of below normal monsoon rains would not pose too much threat to food inflation so long as the central part of the country received close to normal rain.  “The central part is where there is lot of concentration of pulses and cereals. If rainfall in that part of the country remains close to normal, I do not think there will be any pressure. RBI is keeping a close watch on cereals, oilseeds and pulses. However, it is too early to speculate on the impact of the monsoon on food inflation.”  MCCI president, T.T. Srinivasaraghavan said that they were setting up a Rs.6.50-crore skill development centre in Thiruvallur district.  Soft launch would take place by end August and in the first-two years, it would train about 3,500 workers. Besides, MCCI will release a status report on ‘Entrepreneurial ecosystems in Tamil Nadu,' and the bottleneck that hampers the growth of the Chennai Port Trust by August 29.
Business Line

Slowdown may gain some momentum

We don’t expect the slowdown to be dramatic. We expect what is now being referred to as soft landing—that is growth will move from the 8.5% of last year to perhaps 8% and along with that inflation will come down from 9% to perhaps 6% by the end of the (fiscal) year assuming.....

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Government as a microlender

For the government to be present in an industry as a participant and be the entity setting rules is the ultimate conflict of interest.....
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RBI bats for controls on capital flows

Batting for controls on capital flows, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) on Thursday said capital inflows much above a country's absorptive capacity can pose problems other than currency appreciation......

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RBI warns banks on real estate valuation frauds

Alarmed by inflated valuations of real estate properties for the purpose of loans, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has asked all banks to submit an action-taken report on the issue. The matter was raised last week by RBI Governor D Subbarao during a meeting of the Board for Financial Supervision (BFS). After this, top RBI officials met representatives of the banking industry earlier this week. The regulator reminded bankers about the prudential norms on valuation of assets and asked them to follow these in both letter and spirit. Sources close to the development said the sharp spurt in such cases pointed to a nexus between independent valuers appointed by banks and a section of real estate developers. “RBI has come across a high incidence of such frauds in recent times while reviewing the annual financial inspection reports of banks. As a result, the matter was taken up by BFS and the governor wanted the issue to be addressed on a priority basis,” said a banking industry official. BFS was formed in 1994 in the wake of the Harshad Mehta scam. Its objective is to undertake consolidated supervision of the financial sector comprising commercial banks, financial institutions and non-banking finance companies. BFS, which meets once a month and discusses annual financial inspection reports and various issues related to the sector. The sources said banks were “reminded” that valuation agencies indulging in such practices could be blacklisted. They were advised to share the names of the blacklisted agencies with each other. Such frauds affect banks when they have to liquidate a property due to a loan default. During liquidation, it is often found that the value of the property is far less than what was mentioned when the loan was sanctioned. RBI has noticed frequent occurrence of such incidents. Confirming the development, Indian Banks’ Association (IBA) CEO K Ramakrishnan said RBI discussed the issue with them. “IBA has shared RBI’s concerns with the member-banks. We have assured RBI that banks will exercise caution while evaluating assets.” According to a note by Macquarie India, non-performing loans in the commercial real estate segment have increased from 1.6 per cent to 2.3 per cent in the past one year. The absolute level of such loans rose 70 per cent last year, particularly for state-owned banks. In October, RBI raised the risk weightage on residential housing loans of Rs 75 lakh and above, to 125 per cent and capped the loan to value ratio at 80 per cent.
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When a bank becomes too cooperative

On May 7, when the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) recommended the 44-member board be superseded by state government administrators, NCP President and agriculture minister Sharad Pawar was quick to express his displeasure: “The bank has disbursed loans on the state government’s guarantee. There has not been a recovery of such loans and that is why it’s being shown as NPAs.”..........

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